But He Hates Flaming
June 25th, 2006 by EyeOnWinerYou can tell that most of the people who “respect” this man are raging sycophants and fanboys. Why? At BloggerCon yesterday Dave spent a portion of time during Mike Arrington’s session (and others) whining about how horrible the flaming has gotten, and how we shouldn’t be attacking the person.
But then you get a post like this where he endorses as personal attack by Jay Rosen on Marc Canter in the comments to one of his posts.
Lest anyone read Dave’s post and argue that he was just pointing out the discussion, you might read his reply to Jay’s comment: “Jay, amen.”
Anyone with even a hint of awareness has to realize that this is the kind of thing that Dave is consistently saying shouldn’t be going on. And yet, it’s perfectly okay for him to do it.
That’s hypocrisy, folks. Why don’t any of these people who “respect” Dave point this out? Chastize him?
Because they’re cheerleaders.
June 25th, 2006 at 11:12 pm
winer deleted the post you linked to. Typical winer behavior, he goes on the attack by posting a provocation, then removes it so he can deny he ever said it.
Do you have a cached copy of the post?
June 25th, 2006 at 11:23 pm
You can see Dave’s comment, and his trackback (which contains the entire post) by looking at the comments to Marc Canter’s blog… in case those get removed, they’re reproduced in this comment:
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June 26th, 2006 at 12:17 am
The trackback is present on canter’s site, but it appears that winer has expunged the remarks on his “annex” as well as his main site. The comments are present, but nothing else.
I am dumbstruck. I happened to watch blogger con through kevin marks’ video feed. I believe I actually saw the very session that is under discussion in these remarks. For a supposed “unconference” with no leaders, it was obvious that this was totally under winer’s control. He sat up at the front next to the speaker, with a friend of his (I forget who, some podcaster geek). There were two microphones roving the room, this was supposed to be winer’s way to make this a conversation instead of a lecture, any two people could speak to each other without a leader. Oh, but he left out one thing, winer got a microphone all to himself, he could interject at any time. And he did. But more to the point, I saw the session canter was whining about. It was a continual bitchfest about why printer drivers didn’t work, why it was so hard to configure routers, and then a huge argument erupted over Flickr vs Zoomr. Someone tried to stop the argument by invoking the rules against commercial product endorsements, I don’t know who it was, but it took the form of loud screaming “no commercials!” or something like that. But the rules do not apply to winer sycophants, canter got the mike and persisted in hammering on Zoomr. His particular argument was something about how if you accept feeds from another site, you should reciprocate and refeed rather than just be a dead end for content. canter expressed this technological concept with a shout, “If you suck, you should spit!” At that point, I thought to myself, “what the FUCK does this have to do with blogging?” That’s exactly what canter griped about in this post. Uh, maybe because it was BLOGGER con, people expected it to be about blogging? That’s when I turned off the video feed and regretted wasting my time listening to this bunch of idiots. blogger con is a bunch of winer sycophants who only love one thing: the sound of their own voice.
June 26th, 2006 at 12:28 am
I thought it went fairly well for the most part and was more interesting than a traditional conference, but it may not have been as interesting via audio or video feed. Who knows.
I was dismayed at the closing session, though, where Winer interrupted every speaker every two seconds. It was very non-un-conference like. Mike Arrington had a similar problem, although not to the degree Winer himself did.
He’s still on his “I’m quitting blogging” stump, though. Wonder how long that’ll last.