I can’t help it. This is too easy. Most curious is that he calls it a “roundup” but only links to one site.
At any rate, this needs commenting on:
Some people have characterized my post as a suicide note, and that’s correct, it is a suicide note. Let me explain. There’s a virtual Dave and a real one. Here, you’re reading the virtual one. Some people hate this guy, some people love him. Lots of people invent new features of this guy, that are so different from the real guy that if the real guy met the other people’s version of the virtual guy, he would line up to punch him in the nose too.
Over time, this duality has gotten further off track to the point where people come up to the real guy in restaurants and shake the virtual guy’s hand. People threaten to hurt the virtual guy, and mistakenly hit the real guy. The real guy has serious health issues and has to take care of himself, and everyone who reads this blog knows this, yet they still create huge battles with the guy, and otherwise considerate people stand by and watch and do nothing.
The bottom line of what he’s saying here is this: “I’m not a huge asshole online, you people invented the asshole side of me. And those battles? Those are all you guys. I have nothing to do with them.”
Bollocks. We get impressions of Dave based on what he writes. Real Dave writes those things, but he’s trying to create this duality to perpetuate the “He’s just misunderstood” argument, and give his fanboys another escape from the cognitive dissonance they must feel when they defend him time and time again.
And the guilt-trip over creating huge battles with a guy who has health problems? Repugnant. Honestly. If you’re not healthy enough to get into “battles” on the interent, either a) quit being a raging douche-bag or b) quit playing on the internet. And by (b) I don’t mean “spend weeks talking about quitting”.
Noteworthy:
Ron Jeffries thinks Dave has a girlfriend.
“A EOW Reader” comments on Dave’s “duality” over SOAP.
and “Not A Sycophant” comments on Dave’s manipulative post.
This would all be humorous if it weren’t for the mountains of evidence that winer is even more of a raging asshole in real life than he is on teh internets.
http://www.cadenhead.org/workbench/news/2881/letter-dave-winers-attorney
not to be missed. the winer moment continues….
Without any pre-conceived ideas I met Dave Winer in person. I assume this is the real Dave and not the virtual Dave. In about 5 minutes he proved to me and others in the room that his head was way to big for himself, that he really couldn’t work with anyone, that it was either his way or the highway and that he was a big asshole.
anonymous, where? when? what’s the story?
“… check out Rogers’ home page. See the little boy? Want to have sex with him?”
Do you remember with-whom Dave was arguing when he made that unforgivable remark?
Rogers Cadenhead!
http://static.userland.com/userLandDiscussArchive/msg011532.html
For whatever it’s worth, I’ve started the Dave Winer Countdown, giving him until January 1, 2007 to shut down scripting.com at http://www.thosebastards.com
He made the remark as an example of the horrible comments people had made in third voice comments. (remember third voice – it was a browser plug in that could lay chatroom-type comments on top of web content)
Sadly, no.
He invited the users of third voice to have sex with a child pictured on Rogers’ web site.
He thought third voice was a disgusting mob, and when people didn’t agree with him, he tried to sick the third voice mob on other people, try to get them victimized in the most disgusting possible way, to try to get people on his side.
This would be like, if you got mugged, and wanted tougher law enforcement, running around the streets, pointing at underage girls yelling “rape them! rape them!” “Oh, don’t like it? Guess you’d better side with me and vote for tougher law enforcement!”
There is a difference between an explanation and a rationale.
Nice try to reframe it though. There’s no quotation marks in that post. I’ve posted the link to the actual post. Quote:
“If any Third Voice users are tuned in, check out Rogers’ home page. See the little boy? Want to have sex with him?”
Dave did not post “Third Voice will allow people to say things like ‘See the little boy?’” Dave posted declaring it open season for child molesters, on the child pictured at Rogers’ web site.
Dave is so desparate to be right in any argument, he will stop at nothing. A man who just flipped a $10k investment for millions is suing over $5k, paid to “start work” — a service which was in fact rendered.