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	<title>Comments on: FlickrFan: Much Ado About Nothing</title>
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	<description>Keeping an eye on Dave Winer</description>
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		<title>By: Bullshit Mancuso</title>
		<link>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/flickrfan-much-ado-about-nothing/comment-page-1#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>Bullshit Mancuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He also took a shot from somebody who thought it was environmentally irresponsible to leave your power-hog HDTV on all the time just to display pictures.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My favorite moment, though, was when he was asked for his greatest online and offline mistakes, couldn&#039;t muster up the humility to come up with anything, and insulted the questioner.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://portal.vpod.tv/leweb3/393644&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He also took a shot from somebody who thought it was environmentally irresponsible to leave your power-hog HDTV on all the time just to display pictures.</p>

<p>My favorite moment, though, was when he was asked for his greatest online and offline mistakes, couldn&#8217;t muster up the humility to come up with anything, and insulted the questioner.</p>

<p><a href="http://portal.vpod.tv/leweb3/393644" rel="nofollow">http://portal.vpod.tv/leweb3/393644</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gah</title>
		<link>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/flickrfan-much-ado-about-nothing/comment-page-1#comment-854</link>
		<dc:creator>Gah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I love that the Le Web video of Winer has someone telling him about the Google App that does the same... http://pack.google.com/screensaver.html - he looked a little shocked.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that the Le Web video of Winer has someone telling him about the Google App that does the same&#8230; <a href="http://pack.google.com/screensaver.html" rel="nofollow">http://pack.google.com/screensaver.html</a> &#8211; he looked a little shocked.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bullshit Mancuso</title>
		<link>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/flickrfan-much-ado-about-nothing/comment-page-1#comment-845</link>
		<dc:creator>Bullshit Mancuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 03:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;FlickrFan is a trivial hack that requires a ridiculous amount of software and hardware. It also requires a high-definition television to stay on all the time. Talk about bloated.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If Dave Winer had pitched this as a fun project of little consequence that feeds his love of news photography, rather than as a &quot;revolution,&quot; he wouldn&#039;t be the subject of so much ridicule around the net along with Robert Scoble and the other sycophants. But his ego won&#039;t permit him to do anything that&#039;s less than earth-shaking. Almost feel sorry for him.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FlickrFan is a trivial hack that requires a ridiculous amount of software and hardware. It also requires a high-definition television to stay on all the time. Talk about bloated.</p>

<p>If Dave Winer had pitched this as a fun project of little consequence that feeds his love of news photography, rather than as a &#8220;revolution,&#8221; he wouldn&#8217;t be the subject of so much ridicule around the net along with Robert Scoble and the other sycophants. But his ego won&#8217;t permit him to do anything that&#8217;s less than earth-shaking. Almost feel sorry for him.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: McD</title>
		<link>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/flickrfan-much-ado-about-nothing/comment-page-1#comment-843</link>
		<dc:creator>McD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lane Hartwell, Jim Goldstein and Dave Winer are commenting about photo rights at:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.jmg-galleries.com/blog/2007/12/28/flickrfan-a-heads-up-for-license-conscious-flickr-photographers/#comment-21647&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dave is &quot;very busy right now&quot; and that&#039;s not making photographers very happy. Food fight any minute. I tried a comment to see if ARR photos we&#039;re being release in the feed and I found one that is. The software doesn&#039;t read the creators site for a license. If Flickr send a jpg link in a feed it requests a copy of that file. There will be upset people... film at 11. Invoices may start flying soon since this is a &quot;product&quot; with a EULA, etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dave should give this stuff away and never expect to make money with lone scripting. He&#039;s needs legal advice... again.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lane Hartwell, Jim Goldstein and Dave Winer are commenting about photo rights at:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.jmg-galleries.com/blog/2007/12/28/flickrfan-a-heads-up-for-license-conscious-flickr-photographers/#comment-21647" rel="nofollow">http://www.jmg-galleries.com/blog/2007/12/28/flickrfan-a-heads-up-for-license-conscious-flickr-photographers/#comment-21647</a></p>

<p>Dave is &#8220;very busy right now&#8221; and that&#8217;s not making photographers very happy. Food fight any minute. I tried a comment to see if ARR photos we&#8217;re being release in the feed and I found one that is. The software doesn&#8217;t read the creators site for a license. If Flickr send a jpg link in a feed it requests a copy of that file. There will be upset people&#8230; film at 11. Invoices may start flying soon since this is a &#8220;product&#8221; with a EULA, etc.</p>

<p>Dave should give this stuff away and never expect to make money with lone scripting. He&#8217;s needs legal advice&#8230; again.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: McD</title>
		<link>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/flickrfan-much-ado-about-nothing/comment-page-1#comment-842</link>
		<dc:creator>McD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Steven,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dave got  a twitter message from Lane Hartwell asking:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@davewiner: perhaps you could just respect those with ARR on their images and just opt them out. Isn’t that why CC licenses were invented?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He replied:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@lanehartwell, let me have a few days to get educated on these issues. though i’m sure there’s no obvious answer.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Will she send him an invoice? I thought she had her Flickr library locked up.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jpegs are designed to be internet safe copies of works. The jpeg creator can select the level of quality they wish to &quot;give away&quot;. Automating &quot;rights&quot; management for jpegs is an enhancement request that Dave won&#039;t be able to resolve, IMHO, as he suggests.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven,</p>

<p>Dave got  a twitter message from Lane Hartwell asking:</p>

<p>@davewiner: perhaps you could just respect those with ARR on their images and just opt them out. Isn’t that why CC licenses were invented?</p>

<p>He replied:</p>

<p>@lanehartwell, let me have a few days to get educated on these issues. though i’m sure there’s no obvious answer.</p>

<p>Will she send him an invoice? I thought she had her Flickr library locked up.</p>

<p>Jpegs are designed to be internet safe copies of works. The jpeg creator can select the level of quality they wish to &#8220;give away&#8221;. Automating &#8220;rights&#8221; management for jpegs is an enhancement request that Dave won&#8217;t be able to resolve, IMHO, as he suggests.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: EyeOnWiner</title>
		<link>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/flickrfan-much-ado-about-nothing/comment-page-1#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator>EyeOnWiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Seems unlikely, unless you subscribe it to an RSS feed of photos that you don&#039;t have the rights to view... pulling from flickr for personal use is probably fine.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems unlikely, unless you subscribe it to an RSS feed of photos that you don&#8217;t have the rights to view&#8230; pulling from flickr for personal use is probably fine.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steven Hodson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Hodson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;so potentially every user of FlickrFan could be considered a copyright infringer depending on how they set it up to pull feeds.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so potentially every user of FlickrFan could be considered a copyright infringer depending on how they set it up to pull feeds.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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