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	<title>Comments on: The Winer v. OpenSocial Update</title>
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		<title>By: McD</title>
		<link>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/the-winer-v-opensocial-update/comment-page-1#comment-739</link>
		<dc:creator>McD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Advice for Dave Winer: never upgrade a computer you are happy with and getting good value from. Especially, the 1.0 release of a major upgrade... let the market discover the bugs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d offer this advice to Dave on his blog but... he&#039;s into incoming advice and he&#039;s controls inplace. It&#039;s a private club and not a forum for debate.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Leopard does appear to have some significant bugs... but Apple sends out automatic updates and has never failed to resove siginifcant issues in my experience. I support 3 non-techies with Mac&#039;s and they request 1/20th of the support they needed when they all had Windows systems. 2 of them are remote and need assistance once a year on average.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My wife had a major laptop problem and Apple swapped the hardware for new after working with them on simple hardware swaps that didn&#039;t fix the issue.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apple deserves a lot better consideration from Dave but he&#039;s the customer from hell for many companies: Audible as a prime example.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The recent Nintendo Wii issues came close but he got new hardware and the Nintendo CEO should be free to visit Berkeley without additiona security to keep Dave from bathing him in saliva.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advice for Dave Winer: never upgrade a computer you are happy with and getting good value from. Especially, the 1.0 release of a major upgrade&#8230; let the market discover the bugs.</p>

<p>I&#8217;d offer this advice to Dave on his blog but&#8230; he&#8217;s into incoming advice and he&#8217;s controls inplace. It&#8217;s a private club and not a forum for debate.</p>

<p>Leopard does appear to have some significant bugs&#8230; but Apple sends out automatic updates and has never failed to resove siginifcant issues in my experience. I support 3 non-techies with Mac&#8217;s and they request 1/20th of the support they needed when they all had Windows systems. 2 of them are remote and need assistance once a year on average.</p>

<p>My wife had a major laptop problem and Apple swapped the hardware for new after working with them on simple hardware swaps that didn&#8217;t fix the issue.</p>

<p>Apple deserves a lot better consideration from Dave but he&#8217;s the customer from hell for many companies: Audible as a prime example.</p>

<p>The recent Nintendo Wii issues came close but he got new hardware and the Nintendo CEO should be free to visit Berkeley without additiona security to keep Dave from bathing him in saliva.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: pd</title>
		<link>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/the-winer-v-opensocial-update/comment-page-1#comment-738</link>
		<dc:creator>pd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Today&#039;s &quot;I hate Leopard because I don&#039;t understand it&quot; post is pretty priceless, along the same lines.  Especially the part about how they &quot;removed features&quot; from the firewall, even though, of course, that&#039;s not what the article said, and firewalls don&#039;t have &quot;features&quot; in the way he means (he&#039;s talking about the GUI, I think).  More of the same, only with Apple instead of Google.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s &#8220;I hate Leopard because I don&#8217;t understand it&#8221; post is pretty priceless, along the same lines.  Especially the part about how they &#8220;removed features&#8221; from the firewall, even though, of course, that&#8217;s not what the article said, and firewalls don&#8217;t have &#8220;features&#8221; in the way he means (he&#8217;s talking about the GUI, I think).  More of the same, only with Apple instead of Google.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bullshit Mancuso</title>
		<link>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/the-winer-v-opensocial-update/comment-page-1#comment-737</link>
		<dc:creator>Bullshit Mancuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Atom is done:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/FrontPage&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for Winer, I&#039;ll believe he&#039;s doing the right thing regarding Atom when he stops fudding every project that uses it in preference to RSS. There&#039;s no technical reason not to choose Atom over RSS; it boils down to preference and the libraries you have available.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;McD: Your suggestion that we should give him a pat on the back, in the hopes it will make him a better person, is hilariously misguided. That&#039;s one old dog who will never stop shitting on the rug.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atom is done:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/FrontPage" rel="nofollow">http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/FrontPage</a></p>

<p>As for Winer, I&#8217;ll believe he&#8217;s doing the right thing regarding Atom when he stops fudding every project that uses it in preference to RSS. There&#8217;s no technical reason not to choose Atom over RSS; it boils down to preference and the libraries you have available.</p>

<p>McD: Your suggestion that we should give him a pat on the back, in the hopes it will make him a better person, is hilariously misguided. That&#8217;s one old dog who will never stop shitting on the rug.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: EyeOnWiner</title>
		<link>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/the-winer-v-opensocial-update/comment-page-1#comment-736</link>
		<dc:creator>EyeOnWiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To quote Chris Rock from Bring The Pain:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;&#042;&#042;&#042;&#042;&#039;s always want credit for some shit they supposed to do. A &#042;&#042;&#042;&#042;&#039;ll brag about some shit a normal man just does. A &#042;&#042;&#042;&#042;&#039;ll say some shit like &#039;I take care of my kids.&#039; You supposed to you dumb mutha f&#042;&#042;&#042;er! What kind of ignorant shit is that! &#039;I ain&#039;t never been to jail!&#039; What do you want, a cookie?! You&#039;re not supposed to go to jail you low expectation-having motherf&#042;&#042;&#042;er!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote Chris Rock from Bring The Pain:</p>

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  <p>&#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#8217;s always want credit for some shit they supposed to do. A &#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#8217;ll brag about some shit a normal man just does. A &#42;&#42;&#42;&#42;&#8217;ll say some shit like &#8216;I take care of my kids.&#8217; You supposed to you dumb mutha f&#42;&#42;&#42;er! What kind of ignorant shit is that! &#8216;I ain&#8217;t never been to jail!&#8217; What do you want, a cookie?! You&#8217;re not supposed to go to jail you low expectation-having motherf&#42;&#42;&#42;er!</p>
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		<title>By: McD</title>
		<link>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/the-winer-v-opensocial-update/comment-page-1#comment-735</link>
		<dc:creator>McD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dave is working on adding a controlled comment feature to his blog... he has requested the following from Disqus:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You should be using RSS 2.0 (some people will say Atom, you probably should support that too).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes. They should support Atom as well. Since RSS 2.0 is frozen and Atom is under active development for new features and capabilities.
But having Dave suggest it is a landmark occasion that standards advocates should celebrate as an act of great selflessness: a contribution to good will and harmony in the development world.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m being serious... reward behavior you WANT to see repeated.
Pavlov, Maslow, etc.,&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave is working on adding a controlled comment feature to his blog&#8230; he has requested the following from Disqus:</p>

<p>You should be using RSS 2.0 (some people will say Atom, you probably should support that too).</p>

<p>Yes. They should support Atom as well. Since RSS 2.0 is frozen and Atom is under active development for new features and capabilities.
But having Dave suggest it is a landmark occasion that standards advocates should celebrate as an act of great selflessness: a contribution to good will and harmony in the development world.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m being serious&#8230; reward behavior you WANT to see repeated.
Pavlov, Maslow, etc.,</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gahgah</title>
		<link>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/the-winer-v-opensocial-update/comment-page-1#comment-734</link>
		<dc:creator>Gahgah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Let’s see some software then I’ll let you know if this means anything.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That is kind of him, because we all know that nobody else is able to determine this for themselves.. how selfless and considerate.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let’s see some software then I’ll let you know if this means anything.&#8221;</p>

<p>That is kind of him, because we all know that nobody else is able to determine this for themselves.. how selfless and considerate.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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