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	<title>Comments on: Dave Hits a Homerun</title>
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		<title>By: McD</title>
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		<dc:creator>McD</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;With reasonable men I will reason; with humane men I will plea; but to tyrants I will give no quarter, nor waste arguments where they will certainly be lost.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;li&gt;William Lloyd Garrison&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&quot;Look, we are all reasonable men here. We don’t have to give assurances, as if we were lawyers.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;From one of the Godfather Movies (F F Coppola, Mario Puzo)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For me: a truely liberal person is reasonable. Now some might think the ability to change position is wishy-washy but for me it is the power of an intellect that it can accept new evidence and produce new findings.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The most effective critical mind does not criticize: it observes, adapts and investigates the mind of others.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The joy of debate is the potential to discover something we would have never considered and be improved by the experience.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Are we not reasonable (wo)men? Sometimes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I do see that Dave will often withdraw after getting upset and return with a new vision for getting what he wants. He wants a different government and he&#039;s going to work hard to get one. He just might learn to persuade in the process. In politics that is the true capital: persuasion. It can defeat vested interests by showing people that they can unite behind an idea and make this change. The mechanisms are right there... they just need a leader to define the options.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It would be really nice to see Dave lead: becuase all I think he really wants is to make a difference and be respected for the contribution(s) he is/has made.&lt;/p&gt;
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<li>William Lloyd Garrison</li>
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<p>&#8220;Look, we are all reasonable men here. We don’t have to give assurances, as if we were lawyers.&#8221;</p>

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<li>From one of the Godfather Movies (F F Coppola, Mario Puzo)</li>
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<p>For me: a truely liberal person is reasonable. Now some might think the ability to change position is wishy-washy but for me it is the power of an intellect that it can accept new evidence and produce new findings.</p>

<p>The most effective critical mind does not criticize: it observes, adapts and investigates the mind of others.</p>

<p>The joy of debate is the potential to discover something we would have never considered and be improved by the experience.</p>

<p>Are we not reasonable (wo)men? Sometimes.</p>

<p>I do see that Dave will often withdraw after getting upset and return with a new vision for getting what he wants. He wants a different government and he&#8217;s going to work hard to get one. He just might learn to persuade in the process. In politics that is the true capital: persuasion. It can defeat vested interests by showing people that they can unite behind an idea and make this change. The mechanisms are right there&#8230; they just need a leader to define the options.</p>

<p>It would be really nice to see Dave lead: becuase all I think he really wants is to make a difference and be respected for the contribution(s) he is/has made.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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