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	<title>Comments on: Dave Weighs in on Scoble/Facebook</title>
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		<title>By: McD</title>
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		<dc:creator>McD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This reminds me of my experience with one of Dave&#039;s other &quot;products&quot;:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://share.opml.org&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The only way to get OPML out of the site was to scrape the HTML off one of the pages and convert the links to OPML. You could &quot;share&quot; your OPML but never get it back (in OPML). &quot;One-way&quot; version of sharing. Donate is more accurate:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://donate.opml.org&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The &quot;product&quot; did not catch on... people didn&#039;t see the benefit.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;People scrape HTML pages when they must (and when they have the skills to do so).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Services hate automated retrieval for several reasons:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1.) they can kill performance by over taxing servers.
2.) they often get a lot of data and allow the data to be re-purposed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Google effectively caches all the web pages it can read and re-purposes the data to be an authoritative index. But the potential for &quot;privacy&quot; infringement is always mentioned as a justification for not allowing automated scraping. And justifiably so.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of my experience with one of Dave&#8217;s other &#8220;products&#8221;:</p>

<p><a href="http://share.opml.org" rel="nofollow">http://share.opml.org</a></p>

<p>The only way to get OPML out of the site was to scrape the HTML off one of the pages and convert the links to OPML. You could &#8220;share&#8221; your OPML but never get it back (in OPML). &#8220;One-way&#8221; version of sharing. Donate is more accurate:</p>

<p><a href="http://donate.opml.org" rel="nofollow">http://donate.opml.org</a></p>

<p>The &#8220;product&#8221; did not catch on&#8230; people didn&#8217;t see the benefit.</p>

<p>People scrape HTML pages when they must (and when they have the skills to do so).</p>

<p>Services hate automated retrieval for several reasons:</p>

<p>1.) they can kill performance by over taxing servers.
2.) they often get a lot of data and allow the data to be re-purposed.</p>

<p>Google effectively caches all the web pages it can read and re-purposes the data to be an authoritative index. But the potential for &#8220;privacy&#8221; infringement is always mentioned as a justification for not allowing automated scraping. And justifiably so.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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