Dave Winer Invented Web 1.0, 2.0, and 3.0
March 14th, 2008 by Bullshit MancusoAndy Cowl calls out Dave Winer for his latest boast:
I hate the way Dave Winer always claims he invented Web 1.0, 2.0 and now 3.0, ten years ago - http://tinyurl.com/2best3.
Here’s what set him off:
Network apps are getting really interesting, and it’s all different variants on the River of News aggregator and RSS, going back to My.UserLand in 1999, almost 10 years ago.
I love to see this stuff finally take root so virally.
Like Cowl, we marvel at the washed-up assclown’s ability to jump into fields and take most of the credit for them, regardless of how late he came to the party. What has Winer ever had to do with social networking or attention data, the two areas FriendFeed is mashing up? In Dave’s world, he’s the direct inspiration for anything on the web that aggregates data and offers a feed.
March 15th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
When you can see yourself in all things then you know that you ARE the Godhead.
When you can see the hand of others in everything you do then you realize that God moves in, around and through us.
If you don’t believe in God then you just see glorious patterns in the chaos. Beautiful accidents and memes that move us forward towards effective complex abstractions.
Above all… leave your ego at the door.
March 16th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
PS< I love what Dave is doing this political season. His support and enthusiasm for Obama match my own. His podcasts on political issues are just what I need to hear at this point.
So, I’m going to stop harping on his RSS, need for credit and give him a pass for a bit. I was waiting to see if the positive contributions he’s making (Lakoff interviews, dialogue similar to a Sunday Pundit show, etc) would get any credit here and I can see that they don’t even appear on the radar… so…
I’m out.
March 16th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
McD, you know dave well enough, if you agree with dave’s politics and his vociferous support for your candidate, that should make you nervous. You never know when dave will go off the rails and do damage to those he claims to support. And it’s always a matter of WHEN, not IF dave will turn on the people he supports.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
… was waiting to see if the positive contributions he’s making (Lakoff interviews, dialogue similar to a Sunday Pundit show, etc) would get any credit here and I can see that they don’t even appear on the radar…
I’m surprised you find value in Dave’s thimble-deep hot button politics. I gloss over that stuff.
March 18th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Let me see if I understand this… before, when I disagreed with something Dave’s written, politically, I’m supposed to shut up and talk about technology. Now I’m supposed to praise him for his political ramblings?
No thanks. You have a blog, feel free to use it for that.
March 21st, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Eye: At least mention he’s creating MP3’s and a feed for following the campaign “media briefings”. Some media hacking is worth mentioning, to balance the coverage.
Anyway… been away for 4 days and pop’ed back to see any reactions. Interesting… I see that we are divided along political lines here. But, I tried to see other points of view and benefitted from the contact.
March 22nd, 2008 at 9:14 am
EyeOnWiner is not a play-by-play of Dave’s life, and it’s not a substitute for scripting.com. If you want to know what Dave’s up to, you should read his stuff yourself. He does things every week that don’t get “mentioned.” It doesn’t make the coverage “unbalanced”, it makes it “incomplete”.
You’re interested in the MP3s, that’s great. Listen to them. You don’t need us to tell you about them. I’m not interested in them, and if I posted on EOW every time Dave posted to Scripting.com or twitter, I’d have time to do little else.