Comments on: Is Dave Winer Washed Up? http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2008/is-dave-winer-washed-up Keeping an eye on Dave Winer Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:45:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: thomas http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2008/is-dave-winer-washed-up/comment-page-1#comment-1621 thomas Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:40:00 +0000 http://eyeonwiner.org/?p=421#comment-1621 <p>I don't know if I'd call it washed up. He's just a guy who made some contributions and now, as the previous poster says, has gone over the edge. He's the crazy uncle that comes over on christmas and talks and talks and everyone humors him because he's entertaining in a train wreck sort of way.</p> <p>He talks about topics he has no understanding of, attacks when challenged, and makes little sense the majority of the time. Washed up? Not as much as completely irrelevant except for a small group of fans that hang on his every word.</p> I don’t know if I’d call it washed up. He’s just a guy who made some contributions and now, as the previous poster says, has gone over the edge. He’s the crazy uncle that comes over on christmas and talks and talks and everyone humors him because he’s entertaining in a train wreck sort of way.

He talks about topics he has no understanding of, attacks when challenged, and makes little sense the majority of the time. Washed up? Not as much as completely irrelevant except for a small group of fans that hang on his every word.

]]> By: Dave Has Lost It http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2008/is-dave-winer-washed-up/comment-page-1#comment-1620 Dave Has Lost It Thu, 27 Nov 2008 05:09:57 +0000 http://eyeonwiner.org/?p=421#comment-1620 <p>Looking at his current flow, like the rant on stadiums related to the economy and the amazing little insights on what's going on in Afghanistan and I simply cannot help but thing that Dave has gone over the deep end. The guy has become a babbling, incomprehensible, senile, buffoon. A shell of who he used to be.</p> Looking at his current flow, like the rant on stadiums related to the economy and the amazing little insights on what’s going on in Afghanistan and I simply cannot help but thing that Dave has gone over the deep end. The guy has become a babbling, incomprehensible, senile, buffoon. A shell of who he used to be.

]]> By: John Newsjunk http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2008/is-dave-winer-washed-up/comment-page-1#comment-1619 John Newsjunk Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:19:48 +0000 http://eyeonwiner.org/?p=421#comment-1619 <p>I think he has a tendency to consider himself a misunderstood genius. For example:</p> <p>"I've been writing about this for a decade, but no one actually reads my words and as a result I still have to explain myself to supposed experts in this field, including Jarvis. <b>It's really frustrating because I understand something the rest of you don't</b> -- that perspective is what has to change first before you have a hope of coming up with something that works."</p> <p>(http://www.scripting.com/stories/2008/11/24/pointOfViewIsEverything.html#comment-4008812)</p> I think he has a tendency to consider himself a misunderstood genius. For example:

“I’ve been writing about this for a decade, but no one actually reads my words and as a result I still have to explain myself to supposed experts in this field, including Jarvis. It’s really frustrating because I understand something the rest of you don’t — that perspective is what has to change first before you have a hope of coming up with something that works.”

(http://www.scripting.com/stories/2008/11/24/pointOfViewIsEverything.html#comment-4008812)

]]> By: Bullshit Mancuso http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2008/is-dave-winer-washed-up/comment-page-1#comment-1618 Bullshit Mancuso Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:31:38 +0000 http://eyeonwiner.org/?p=421#comment-1618 <p>Yup. This exchange today is typical Winer assholery:</p> <p>BrianSullivan 5 hours ago</p> <p>It's a bit of a stretch to say you need a "mail server" isn't it? What you need is a small portion of what a typical mail server is -- basically what you need is a mail relay. Windows servers have a built in mail relay as part of the standard distribution. Why not use that?</p> <p>dave 5 hours ago</p> <p>Believe me there's a reason. I'm kind of fed up with people asking questions this way. Try again if you really care.</p> <p>BrianSullivan 4 hours ago</p> <p>I thought the "any advice would be most welcome" indicated just that - but obviously it means something else.</p> <p>dave 4 hours ago</p> <p>In any case, to answer your question, I have two servers, each with a different reason why Microsoft's IIS mail server wouldn't be a good choice. On the first, for some reason the server was configured without SMTP turned on. When I go through the configuration process, it asks for me to insert a CD. Not only don't I have the CD, but the computer is in Dallas, and I don't like to ask them for help (I'd probably get the same kind of BS I got from Godaddy yesterday).</p> <p>The other machine is at EC2, and I don't want to make any modifications to the C drive, which has the OS on it. If you read yesterday's piece, you'll see why.</p> <p>Further, if you read the Update at the top of the piece, in italics, you'll see that the problem was solved, I managed to get my own mail server up and running. All of this a good half hour at least before you posted your comment.</p> Yup. This exchange today is typical Winer assholery:

BrianSullivan 5 hours ago

It’s a bit of a stretch to say you need a “mail server” isn’t it? What you need is a small portion of what a typical mail server is — basically what you need is a mail relay. Windows servers have a built in mail relay as part of the standard distribution. Why not use that?

dave 5 hours ago

Believe me there’s a reason. I’m kind of fed up with people asking questions this way. Try again if you really care.

BrianSullivan 4 hours ago

I thought the “any advice would be most welcome” indicated just that – but obviously it means something else.

dave 4 hours ago

In any case, to answer your question, I have two servers, each with a different reason why Microsoft’s IIS mail server wouldn’t be a good choice. On the first, for some reason the server was configured without SMTP turned on. When I go through the configuration process, it asks for me to insert a CD. Not only don’t I have the CD, but the computer is in Dallas, and I don’t like to ask them for help (I’d probably get the same kind of BS I got from Godaddy yesterday).

The other machine is at EC2, and I don’t want to make any modifications to the C drive, which has the OS on it. If you read yesterday’s piece, you’ll see why.

Further, if you read the Update at the top of the piece, in italics, you’ll see that the problem was solved, I managed to get my own mail server up and running. All of this a good half hour at least before you posted your comment.

]]> By: John Newsjunk http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2008/is-dave-winer-washed-up/comment-page-1#comment-1617 John Newsjunk Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:49:16 +0000 http://eyeonwiner.org/?p=421#comment-1617 <p>If you read the comments, you'll see Dave is reverting to his short-tempered asshole mode, which he seemed to have almost abandoned in recent months. He is getting testy when people ask questions with a certain 'tone', and quite obstinate when people disagree with his pontifications about what the news industry is doing wrong (and his solution to their problems: in short, bloggers can do it all).</p> If you read the comments, you’ll see Dave is reverting to his short-tempered asshole mode, which he seemed to have almost abandoned in recent months. He is getting testy when people ask questions with a certain ‘tone’, and quite obstinate when people disagree with his pontifications about what the news industry is doing wrong (and his solution to their problems: in short, bloggers can do it all).

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