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		<title>Meet Dave Winer&#8217;s Future Former Business Partner</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave Winer recently launched NewsJunk, an RSS-backed aggregator of political news, with Nicco Mele. Mele, the former webmaster for the Howard Dean campaign, says they&#8217;ve been developing it for months: I’ve been working on a new project with Dave Winer &#8212; Newsjunk.com. For the last few months, I’ve been annoyed at how hard it is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Winer recently launched <a href="http://www.newsjunk.com/">NewsJunk</a>, an RSS-backed aggregator of political news, with <a href="http://www.cencom.org/bios.aspx?id=1490">Nicco Mele</a>. Mele, the former webmaster for the Howard Dean campaign, says they&#8217;ve been <a href="http://www.nicco.org/blog/2008/06/02/newsjunkcom/">developing it for months</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.nicco.org/blog/"><img src="http://www.cencom.org/uploadedImages/Cencom_Home/People/Bios/NiccoMele.jpg" width="86" height="145" alt="Nicco Mele" align="right" border="0" hspace="3"/></a>I’ve been working on a new project with Dave Winer &#8212; <a href="http://newsjunk.com/">Newsjunk.com</a>. For the last few months, I’ve been annoyed at how hard it is to follow the political coverage. News pops up in a lot of different places, and having single source to follow what’s happening throughout the day has been an itch that needs scratching. Dave remembers the briefing books we had on the Dean campaign, a fixture of many campaigns. So NewsJunk.com started as a way to scratch the itch of the political news junkie, and a way to begin to build an open briefing book.

</p><p>During the 2000 cycle, I worked as the webmaster and technical director of the <a href="http://www.commondreams.org/news2000/0619-11.htm">Shadow Conventions</a>.  That’s actually where I first met Dave, through <a href="http://www.scripting.com/davenet/1999/12/08/editthispagecom.html">Edit This Page.com</a>.  Then during the 2004 cycle, I worked as the <a href="http://www.esquire.com/features/best-n-brightest-2003/ESQ1203-DEC_MELE">webmaster for Howard Dean</a>. This cycle (2008) after a <a href="http://www.rklau.com/tins/archives/2006/08/26/nicco-mele.php">false start</a>, I’m excited to be working on NewsJunk.</p></blockquote>

<p>What&#8217;s the over/under on how long it takes before this collaboration crashes and burns? As <a href="http://www.calacanis.com/">Jason Calacanis</a> will tell any human or <a href="http://www.1938media.com/dave-winer-and-jason-calacanis-talk-it-out/">puppet</a> who asks, Winer can&#8217;t work with people. He&#8217;s never mastered the principle &#8220;you have to be a friend to have a friend.&#8221; Mele, who <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/24/193540/574">destroyed his rep</a> among former Deaniacs by <a href="http://www.nicco.org/blog/2006/08/24/mccain/">backing McCain</a>, is exhibiting some weird judgment here too.</p>

<p>As Mele ponders how much effort to put into their joint venture, perhaps he should consider the significance of the following three facts:</p>

<ol>
    <li>Winer <a href="http://whois.domaintools.com/newsjunk.com">owns the domain</a></li>
    <li>Winer runs the application on his own server at <a href="http://www.whois.ws/whois-ip/70.85.234.142/">70.85.234.142</a></li>
    <li>Winer claims all rights to the project: &#8220;© 2008 Scripting News, Inc. NewsJunk is a trademark of Scripting News, Inc.&#8221;</li>
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		<title>Loren Feldman on Dave Winer&#8217;s Legacy</title>
		<link>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2008/loren-feldman-on-dave-winers-legacy</link>
		<comments>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2008/loren-feldman-on-dave-winers-legacy#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bullshit Mancuso</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Loren Feldman&#8217;s earning his Winer Number: Want to have some fun? Trademark the 1938Media name than take those cyber-squatting domains away from DW.. By Fred Grott on May 28, 2008 Fred &#8211; I dont give a shit about anything Winer does. His career is finished, mine is just starting. His legacy will be that of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loren Feldman&#8217;s <a href="http://www.1938media.com/dave-winer-and-jason-calacanis-talk-it-out/#comment-203168">earning his Winer Number</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p>Want to have some fun? Trademark the 1938Media name than take those cyber-squatting domains away from DW..

</p><p>By <strong><a href="http://www.jroller.com/shareme/">Fred Grott</a></strong> on <a href="http://www.1938media.com/dave-winer-and-jason-calacanis-talk-it-out/#comment-203118">May 28, 2008</a>

</p><p>Fred &#8211; I dont give a shit about anything Winer does. His career is finished, mine is just starting. His legacy will be that of a desperate old douche bag. Fail.

</p><p>By <strong>Loren Feldman</strong> on <a href="http://www.1938media.com/dave-winer-and-jason-calacanis-talk-it-out/#comment-203168">May 28, 2008</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Dave Winer Fights Puppetmaster Loren Feldman</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bullshit Mancuso</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Videoblogger Loren Feldman recently began mocking Dave Winer through the magic of puppetry: The Dave Winer Experience Happy RSS Awareness Day from Dave Winer Is Obama Black or Black? Dave Winer on Desensitizing Twitter Winer responded by cybersquatting the domain names 1938media.net and 1938media.org on May 1, created an account on YouTube under the name [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Videoblogger Loren Feldman recently began mocking Dave Winer through the magic of puppetry:</p>

<ol>
    <li><a href="http://www.1938media.com/the-dave-winer-experience/">The Dave Winer Experience</a></li>
    <li><a href="http://www.1938media.com/happy-rss-awareness-day-from-dave-winer/">Happy RSS Awareness Day from Dave Winer</a></li>
    <li><a href="http://www.1938media.com/is-obama-black-or-black/">Is Obama Black or Black?</a></li>
    <li><a href="http://www.1938media.com/dave-winer-on-desensitizing-twitter/">Dave Winer on Desensitizing Twitter</a></li>
</ol>

<p>Winer responded by cybersquatting the domain names <a href="http://whois.domaintools.com/1938media.net">1938media.net</a> and <a href="http://whois.domaintools.com/1938media.org">1938media.org</a> on May 1, created an account on YouTube under the name <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/evilmikearrington">evilmikearrington</a> on May 5 and used it and the domains to promote his <a href="http://www.1938media.net/">own puppet video</a>, which shows he&#8217;d get killed in a puppet war.</p>

<p>One of these days, Winer&#8217;s habit of <a href="http://valleywag.com/tech/feuds/crusty-old-web-wanker-dave-winer-cybersquats-on-rival-289885.php">cybersquatting to fuck with people</a> is going to bite him in the ass.</p>
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		<title>Dave Winer Drops Google, Apple Domains</title>
		<link>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/dave-winer-drops-google-apple-domains</link>
		<comments>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/dave-winer-drops-google-apple-domains#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bullshit Mancuso</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave Winer is dropping four of his domains that contain tech company trademarks: WhyGoogleSucks.Com WhyAppleSucks.Com NextMacQuestion.Com CloneTheGoogleApi.Com Eye on Winer recently caught him squatting the name of a critic, an obnoxious stunt that inspired ValleyWag to call him a &#8220;crusty old web wanker.&#8221; (You&#8217;ll get no argument from us.) The whois records for the domains [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Winer is dropping four of his domains that contain tech company trademarks:</p>

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    <li><a href="http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=whygooglesucks.com&#038;type=domain">WhyGoogleSucks.Com</a></li>
    <li><a href="http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=whyapplesucks.com&#038;type=domain">WhyAppleSucks.Com</a></li>
    <li><a href="http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=nextmacquestion.com&#038;type=domain">NextMacQuestion.Com</a></li>
    <li><a href="http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=clonethegoogleapi.com&#038;type=domain">CloneTheGoogleApi.Com</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Eye on Winer recently caught him <a href="http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/dave-winer-cybersquatter">squatting the name of a critic</a>, an obnoxious stunt that inspired <a href="http://valleywag.com/tech/feuds/crusty-old-web-wanker-dave-winer-cybersquats-on-rival-289885.php">ValleyWag</a> to call him a &#8220;crusty old web wanker.&#8221; (You&#8217;ll get no argument from us.)</p>

<p>The whois records for the domains show that Winer dropped them before they were set to expire. Did Google and Apple put the screws to him? Google&#8217;s attorneys have gone after <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Adomains.adrforum.com%2Fdomains%2Fdecisions+google+transferred">hundreds of cybersquatters</a> in domain name arbitration for using &#8220;google&#8221; in their names, winning every case.</p>
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		<title>What Else Is Winer Squatting On?</title>
		<link>http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/what-else-is-winer-squatting-on</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve mentioned that Dave is squatting on EyeOnWiner.com and earlier today that he&#8217;s also squatting on NickIrelan.com. Which made me wonder&#8230; what else has Dave registered? Hosted at 70.85.234.142: (ThePlanet.com) Checkboxnews.com Checkboxnews.net Checkboxnews.org Hypercamp.org Micropodcasting.com Twitogram.com Hosted at 75.37.83.20: (Dave&#8217;s private IP block) Bbcriver.com Nytimesriver.com Scripting.com Hosted at: 70.85.234.138 (ThePlanet.com) Blogcherry.com Bloggercon.org Clonethegoogleapi.com Cnetriver.com Cnnriver.com [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve mentioned that Dave is <a href="http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/domain-wars">squatting on EyeOnWiner.com</a> and earlier today that he&#8217;s also <a href="http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2007/dave-winer-cybersquatter">squatting on NickIrelan.com</a>. Which made me wonder&#8230; what else has Dave registered?</p>

<p><span id="more-236"></span></p>

<p><strong>Hosted at 70.85.234.142:</strong> (ThePlanet.com)</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Checkboxnews.com<br />
  Checkboxnews.net<br />
  Checkboxnews.org<br />
  Hypercamp.org<br />
  Micropodcasting.com<br />
  Twitogram.com</p>
</blockquote>

<p><strong>Hosted at 75.37.83.20:</strong> (Dave&#8217;s <a href="http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl?queryinput=!%20NET-75-37-83-16-1">private IP block</a>)</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bbcriver.com<br />
  Nytimesriver.com<br />
  Scripting.com</p>
</blockquote>

<p><strong>Hosted at: 70.85.234.138</strong> (ThePlanet.com)</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Blogcherry.com<br />
  Bloggercon.org<br />
  <strong>Clonethegoogleapi.com</strong><br />
  Cnetriver.com<br />
  Cnnriver.com<br />
  Codecasting.org<br />
  <strong>Crunchstorm.com</strong><br />
  Cutandrunnow.com<br />
  Dailynewsriver.com<br />
  Davewiner.com<br />
  <strong>Davewinerfriends.com</strong><br />
  <strong>Evespeeves.com</strong><br />
  <strong>Eyeonwiner.com</strong><br />
  <strong>Eyeonwiner.net</strong><br />
  Foo-camp.com<br />
  Fu-camp.com<br />
  Fucamp.com<br />
  Gobag.org<br />
  Greatvavavoom.com<br />
  Ihtriver.com<br />
  Independentpodcasters.com<br />
  Indiepodcasters.com<br />
  Mailtothefuture.com<br />
  Mbatoolbox.org<br />
  Mediahackers.org<br />
  Mendocinoave.com<br />
  Mendocinoavenue.com<br />
  Newsriver.net<br />
  Newsriver.org<br />
  Newsrivr.com<br />
  Nextmacquestion.com<br />
  <strong>Nickdentonwag.com</strong><br />
  <strong>Nickirelan.com</strong><br />
  Notonedamndimeday.com<br />
  Opml.org<br />
  Ournewpod.com<br />
  Outliners.com<br />
  Podcatch.com<br />
  Podcatcha.com<br />
  Podchow.org<br />
  Protoblogger.com<br />
  Protoblogger.net<br />
  Protoblogger.org<br />
  Reallysimplesyndication.com<br />
  <strong>Rssfund.com</strong><br />
  Rssteam.org<br />
  Slowdave.com<br />
  Smallpicture.com<br />
  Smallpicturebook.com<br />
  Smallpicturemovie.com<br />
  Soapware.org<br />
  Superopendirectory.com<br />
  <strong>Syndicationwars.com</strong><br />
  Syndisphere.com<br />
  Tagcamp.com<br />
  Tagsr.us<br />
  Teamrss.com<br />
  Thesmallpicture.net<br />
  Thesmallpicture.org<br />
  Thetwowayweb.com<br />
  Thumpin.net<br />
  Thumpin.org<br />
  Thumpin.us<br />
  Truetruths.org<br />
  Tvguideriver.com<br />
  Uniblogger.org<br />
  Unitedpodcasters.com<br />
  <strong>Valeriewag.com<br />
  Valerywag.com</strong><br />
  Whyapplesucks.com<br />
  <strong>Whygooglesucks.com</strong><br />
  Worldnewsriver.com<br />
  Wsjriver.com<br />
  Xml-rpc.com<br />
  Xml-rpc.org<br />
  Xmlrpc.com<br />
  Xmlrpc.org<br />
  Yomoblog.com</p>
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		<title>Dave Winer, Cybersquatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In January, Dave Winer got into a spat with Nick Irelan, a reader of his blog who challenged Winer&#8217;s claim to have invented RSS, podcasts, blogs, outliners, web services, non-stick cooking spray and the use of the scrolling wheel mouse button in heterosexual cybersex. Because Winer is class all the way down, he didn&#8217;t just [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In January, Dave Winer got into a <a href="http://scripting.wordpress.com/2007/01/23/scripting-news-for-1232007/">spat</a> with Nick Irelan, a reader of his blog who challenged Winer&#8217;s claim to have invented RSS, podcasts, blogs, outliners, web services, non-stick cooking spray and the use of the scrolling wheel mouse button in heterosexual cybersex.</p>

<p>Because Winer is class all the way down, he didn&#8217;t just rebuke Irelan on his site. He <a href="http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIsVerify.aspx?domain=nickirelan.com&amp;prog_id=godaddy">registered</a> the domain name NickIrelan.Com:</p>

<blockquote>Domain Name: NICKIRELAN.COM<br />
Registrant:<br />
Scripting News, Inc<br />
2 1/2 Third St<br />
St Augustine Beach, Florida 32080<br />
United States

<p>Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)<br />
Created on: 24-Jan-07<br />
Expires on: 24-Jan-08

</p><p>Administrative, Technical, Billing Contact:<br />
Winer, Dave  <a href="mailto:dave@scripting.com">dave@scripting.com</a><br />
Scripting News, Inc<br />
2 1/2 Third St<br />
St Augustine Beach, Florida 32080<br />
United States<br />
(206) 369-0687</p></blockquote>

<p>Registering someone else&#8217;s name in bad faith violates the Anti-Cybersquatting Consumer Protection Act. Winer could face fines from $1,000 to $100,000 plus attorney&#8217;s fees if found to have broken the law. Irelan&#8217;s not a public figure &#8212; he&#8217;s a college student according to his LinkedIn profile &#8212; so Winer can&#8217;t defend his actions by claiming he intended to use the domain to comment on him.</p>

<p>Irelan tried to add Winer&#8217;s cybersquatting stunt to his <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Winer">Wikipedia entry</a>, but it was quickly deleted by other editors, even though the proof&#8217;s right there in the WHOIS database.</p>

<p>If anyone knows a lawyer who could help Irelan get his domain name, please comment here. I&#8217;ve sent Irelan a link to this blog.</p>

<p><strong>Update [~EoW]:</strong> After this story got <a href="http://valleywag.com/tech/feuds/crusty-old-web-wanker-dave-winer-cybersquats-on-rival-289885.php">picked up by ValleyWag</a>, Dave wrote in (to VW) to say that he&#8217;s released the domain. I&#8217;ll believe it when I see it, but apparently the heat was a little too much for him. Score one for the good guys.</p>
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