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More on Dave Winer’s FlickrFan Lock-In

Thursday, February 28th, 2008

Some readers aren’t clear on why it’s hypocritical as hell for Dave Winer to invent a new HTTP header to lock out other applications from accessing the photo RSS feeds used by FlickrFan. Winer’s fearmongering about FeedBurner should make the point clear. Last year, in one of his efforts to spread FUD against Google’s feed publishing service, Winer wrote:

… if Google ties Feedburner to Google Reader that still hurts people like me, because my feed doesn’t work as well with Google Reader.

Now let’s take a deeper look at “doesn’t work as well.”

It could end up meaning “doesn’t work at all.” It’s quite possible in the second or third iteration that Google drops support for non-Feedburner feeds. It wouldn’t be unprecedented, far from it. Google Blogoscoped has a list of Google products that “prefer” other Google products. I’ve never seen Google not do this when they had the chance. The instant they bought Blogger they tied it to their toolbar. If they had used an open API the toolbar would have worked with all blogging tools. Google just doesn’t think that way, sorry to say.

The ability of one user to opt out would do absolutely nothing to stop or even diminish the negative effects of monopolistic tying. And users show no inclination to do anything for the benefit of the Internet as a whole, so there’s no reason to believe any of them would withhold their support of Feedburner just because it screws with the benefits of a level playing field in the RSS ecosystem. Certainly not enough to persuade Google not to tie the two products.

Several programmers used Winer’s new RSS feeds to display photos without FlickrFan, either because they don’t use Macs or because OPML Editor runs like ass. Those programs don’t work at all now. Winer’s belief in a level playing field in the RSS ecosystem only applies to other people.

Remember that the next time he complains about being locked in a trunk.

Dave Winer Fires Up a Brick at Yahoo

Saturday, January 19th, 2008

Yahoo programmer Premshree Pillai attended a Brickhouse presentation recently by Dave Winer of his software FlickrFan. His review:

I can’t believe he spoke for an hour or so on how he wrote a script that’d display Flickr images as a screensaver. D’oh!

Now if Dave were to read this he’d reason that I missed the point and that what he did was much more than that. But that’s Dave.

(Yes, Scoble was around. I think I remember seeing Aaron Swartz also.)

Update: Winer showed up on Pillai’s Flickr site and posted a response.

Just curious, why didn’t you talk about that at the meetup? There was a lot of discussion, you really should have had said your piece then and there. I suppose maybe I wasted a lot of time, maybe you could have done what I did in a lot less time. Maybe I could learn a lot from you. Shame that you didn’t offer to share your insights.

I wish I had a picture on my HDTV of Winer’s face when he read Pillai’s comment.

Is Fake Dave Winer Redundant?

Sunday, December 30th, 2007

Fake Dave Winer:

Not only have I done a superfluous job recreating the screen saver, I have also started a new blog. Why a new blog, you ask?

Well, because Scripting News was too narrow for the world that is Dave Winer. You see, I am Dave Winer, after all.

After today’s so so launch of MY great product (I blame that fat @#$% Scoble for a horrible demo) FlickrFan, I felt that I really needed more places to reach the little people with the goodness that is ME.

Seriously, I could go on and on about my innovations in the tech industry. I really could. However, what I’m looking forward to doing here is settling down at the end of a long brainstorming day and spill my heart to you. And by doing it as “fake” Dave Winer, I can be more open. I can be the real ME.

Hold me closer, tiny dancer.

Lane Hartwell is Wrong, Dave’s a Hypocrite

Friday, December 28th, 2007

As one might expect, Dave’s new software set off something of a storm of complaints form photographers who a) don’t understand the technology and/or b) don’t understand the law.

Here’s pretty much the bottom line: when you post something — anything — publicly on the web you’re basically giving the world the freedom to take a copy of it for their own personal use and enjoyment. Not to sell, not to display publicly, not to give away, but for personal, private use.

Lane Hartwell says, in a comment:

if I have my images marked ALL RIGHTS RESERVED I mean just that…no reproduction in any form without my consent.

Unfortunately for her, that’s not really how it works. In fact, it really can’t work that way. It’s impossible for Computer B to display an image that’s stored on Computer A without reproduction. Does Lane really expect everyone who loads up Flickr to pick up the phone and call her before their browser makes a cache copy?

Besides, isn’t the real problem here that Flickr is transmitting the URLs of JPGs that are supposed to be marked “all rights reserved”?

After all, when Dave says: “When you publish an RSS feed with enclosures you’re inviting people to download your content and store it locally.” He’s absolutely right — that’s the whole point of RSS enclosures.

Arguing that downloading things from RSS enclosures is copyright infringement is like putting all of your valuables in a vending machine and then trying to press charges against the people who use it for “theft”.

Then again…

When Dave’s website was being marked up by Google’s Toolbar he didn’t like it, but it was basically the same thing as FlickrFan is doing (although far more innocuous). If we’re very, very generous to FlickrFan, we can say that the software is remixing Flickr so that we can view it our own way, which is what Google Toolbar did when it added links to pages at our request.

The contrast is that in the first scenario it was Dave’s site being remixed and here Dave is the remixer. In Dave’s world, that makes all the difference.

Dave Winer Started the Fire

Friday, December 28th, 2007

Dave Winer posted the following entry today on Scripting News before sending it down the memory hole:

Did I invent photocasting and catching?

Well, no I didn’t. And you can quote me on that.

There are quite a few apps that run on desktops that read RSS feeds with either picture enclosures or media-rss enclosures. They all seem to coordinate with, or are screen savers. (FlickrFan falls into the first category, it’s not a screen saver, and people who say it is are wrong.)

But I’ll tell you this, mark my words, I will make this a big deal, I will get major content companies on board, and I will spawn competition, and invigorate the existing products, and when it’s done, a lot more pictures will be flowing to a lot more living rooms, laptops and desktops because of the work I am doing.

I wasn’t the first podcaster either, I think that honor goes to Steve Gillmor and Chris Lydon. But when I started podcasting in the summer of 2004, a lot more people saw that they could do it because I showed them how, I made it my business to demystify it, and because I’m so obviously an amateur (if he can do it so can I).

And, as with podcasting, the technology for this stuff was my creation. :-)

The post was republished by Planet PGC before deletion.

Long bet: Two weeks from today, even Scoble won’t be talking about this application.

Dave Winer, Chronic Complainer

Thursday, December 27th, 2007

Marshall Kirkpatrick wrote up Flickrfan, Dave Winer’s new half-assed TV screensaver, on Read/Write Web:

Chronic inventor Dave Winer has released an early version of his new Mac software flickrfan tonight. …

Instead of being grateful for the publicity, Winer had a cow over the term “chronic.”

Winer: “… I’m a veteran developer (a term I prefer to “chronic” — what exactly does that mean?)”

Winer (one hour later): “… And please don’t use the word chronic — that’s a word that’s used for sickness. It’s a bit of s curse man. Not very nice, and not likely to work too well for you if you recall that what goes around comes around. I thought we had a cordial relationship. :-)

Kirkpatrick changed “chronic” to “long-time,” an entirely unnecessary capitulation to a completely ridiculous complaint. Two months ago Winer declared the word hate off-limits because his relatives fled the Nazis. Now the word chronic’s out of bounds because it makes him feel frail and vulnerable.

Am I still allowed to use the word assclown?