Archive for the ‘Friends’ Category

Michael Arrington vs. Dave Winer

Saturday, June 6th, 2009

Michael Arrington appears to have seen the light about Dave Winer, from the looks of this comment he made on TechCrunch:

Dave: just stop. you’ll do and say anything to get what you want. even lie. even delete previous messages and reverse your opinion.

http://eyeonwiner.org/archives/2008/dave-winer-is-loren-feldmans-puppet

http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/davefeldman.png

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/13/the-rules-apply-to-everyone/

you have no integrity. you have no core ethics. it’s just all about you all the time.

This latest blowup began when Winer questioned Arrington’s integrity because TechCrunch is one of the suggested users recommended on Twitter. Winer sent a direct message to TechCrunch writer MG Siegler telling him to “stop fucking with RSS” because of an article arguing that RSS is dead. (Note that the article was by Steve Gillmor, not Siegler — Winer is a fucking genius.)

As you can see, Arrington is using Eye on Winer as a resource to document Winer’s hypocrisy. We compliment him on his good taste. They were best bros going back to the early days of TechCrunch — Arrington once served as his lawyer — but Arrington seems to have figured out why so many people in tech will never work with Winer.

If you know anyone else who hasn’t learned this lesson, send them to us.

2 Girls 1 Twittersphere

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

What’s more pathetic — Dave Winer’s New Year’s Day dump on Robert Scoble

You can’t be on Twitter or FriendFeed and not be inundated with comments from and about Scoble. I don’t know how he does it, but it’s really annoying. I find myself relaxing when he takes a break from Twitter, for example to fly from Europe to the US. Finally I can speak without having everything one-upped by Scoble. Whatever it is, he’s done it better, or bigger, or with more important people. It’s irritating because I don’t believe it. I’d really like it if he just turned down the volume. I’d really like it if he just turned down the volume. Or if there were a way to segment the Twittersphere, I’d like to be in the part where Scoble isn’t the main topic of conversation 24-by-7.

or Scoble lapping it up like 2 Girls 1 Cup?

Interesting post and one I’ll consider! I clicked like on it in friendfeed so that all my followers could see it. I also retweeted it. I think I’ll do a video on how to get rid of Robert Scoble out of your view. It’s actually not that hard thanks to the “block” feature in friendfeed.

As James Robertson points out, there’s already a way to “segment the Twittersphere,” and it’s called the Remove button.

Dave Winer is Loren Feldman’s Puppet

Sunday, June 29th, 2008

Dave Winer killed a blog post last night related to his feud with Loren Feldman, creator of a Winer puppet that mocks the shit out of him:

Shel got a reprieve

Saturday, June 28, 2008 by Dave Winer.

Well, it worked.

They let Shel Israel off the hook. He gets his name back, the puppet is retired. The mock trial they were planning for the TechCrunch summer party, that I learned of this morning, is cancelled. I don’t know what Heather and Mike were thinking, or if they were even in the loop, but people need to be a lot more careful with each others’ reputations, if we ever want to get anywhere.

Maybe after a breathing period we can resume some of our friendships.

Lately Winer has been complaining about the treatment of Israel, another butt of Feldman’s jokes who has been turned into a puppet. Winer’s comments on FriendFeed show why:

Do you think they would be doing this if Shel’s name was Kathy Sierra? Why is it funny to destroy a middle-aged Jewish guy?

It amazes me the people who just stand by and do and say nothing.

I don’t just think his Jewishness has anything to do with it, I’m sure of it.

Israel is, of course, a stand-in for Winer’s own beef with Feldman — the poor middle-aged Jewish tech blogger that the Nazi puppetmaster and his anti-Semitic thugs wants to destroy. First they came for the A listers, but I did not complain, for I was a B-lister …

The notion that anti-Semitism is at play here is deranged. As J. Michael Arrington pointed out on that FriendFeed discussion, Winer praised the puppets (including the Israel one) as recently as June 28 — Twitter messages he has since deleted.

In a discussion on Feldman’s site, Winer pleaded with Feldman to “cancel the vendetta against me”:

I just heard today what you think I said to or about your girlfriend. Loren, listen to this carefully — it never happened. Think about it. What if you got this wrong. How the fuck are you ever going to make it up.

Accusing a man of abusing women is the worst thing you can say about him. You really have fucked up here big time. And if you feel like a mensch, you should apologize, cause you really wronged me. Swear to god.

PS: I heard about it from a woman friend who knows your girlfriend. I asked her to let her know that what you said about me is absolutely untrue.

Winer has so little self-knowledge that he can’t understand how his actions might make him a rich target for mockery. In his head, the only reason Feldman could possibly be going after him is some personal slight involving Feldman’s girlfriend.

Feldman, who has to be loving Winer’s overwrought hysterics, has big plans for Puppet Dave:

Im preparing a documentary with puppets of course about Dave Winer. Please email me all Winer Incidents, all replies in strict confidence.

Meet Dave Winer’s Future Former Business Partner

Tuesday, June 10th, 2008

Dave Winer recently launched NewsJunk, an RSS-backed aggregator of political news, with Nicco Mele. Mele, the former webmaster for the Howard Dean campaign, says they’ve been developing it for months:

Nicco MeleI’ve been working on a new project with Dave Winer — Newsjunk.com. For the last few months, I’ve been annoyed at how hard it is to follow the political coverage. News pops up in a lot of different places, and having single source to follow what’s happening throughout the day has been an itch that needs scratching. Dave remembers the briefing books we had on the Dean campaign, a fixture of many campaigns. So NewsJunk.com started as a way to scratch the itch of the political news junkie, and a way to begin to build an open briefing book.

During the 2000 cycle, I worked as the webmaster and technical director of the Shadow Conventions. That’s actually where I first met Dave, through Edit This Page.com. Then during the 2004 cycle, I worked as the webmaster for Howard Dean. This cycle (2008) after a false start, I’m excited to be working on NewsJunk.

What’s the over/under on how long it takes before this collaboration crashes and burns? As Jason Calacanis will tell any human or puppet who asks, Winer can’t work with people. He’s never mastered the principle “you have to be a friend to have a friend.” Mele, who destroyed his rep among former Deaniacs by backing McCain, is exhibiting some weird judgment here too.

As Mele ponders how much effort to put into their joint venture, perhaps he should consider the significance of the following three facts:

  1. Winer owns the domain
  2. Winer runs the application on his own server at 70.85.234.142
  3. Winer claims all rights to the project: “© 2008 Scripting News, Inc. NewsJunk is a trademark of Scripting News, Inc.”

Jason Calacanis on Dave Winer

Wednesday, March 19th, 2008

Irish podcaster Tom Rafterty recently interviewed Jason Calacanis, saving his last question for the Mahalo founder’s feud with Dave Winer.

Rafterty: Have you kissed and made up with Dave Winer?

Jason Calacanis: No, we haven’t. He is famous for not making up with anybody. He’s also famous for having big fallouts to people. We were friends for a couple years then he heckled me at that show. He apologized, I accepted the apology but he felt that I needed to apologize and I just didn’t, OK, what am I apologizing for? Oh, I’m apologizing for you heckling me? It just didn’t make any sense to me. He’s a certain type of individual and I think sometimes — there’s a reason why Adam Curry didn’t work with him on the PodShow thing. There’s a reason why Tim O’Reilly disinvited him from all the O’Reilly events. I don’t have to go down the list, but there’s a huge group of people who are well-respected who told me ahead of time, ‘Hey, don’t engage this guy because it will end’ — and I was like, I don’t know, he seems like a nice guy. We had dinner a bunch of times then he turned on me. I’ve been speaking at events for 12 years. People invite me to go all over the world to talk about what I’m doing. I get paid sometimes five or 10 thousand dollars to speak for half an hour — I donate it to charity, anyway — but how would you ever heckle somebody from the audience? It doesn’t make, it’s against the common, take me on in the question-and-answer session, of course, I’ll take on anybody — everybody knows that — but let me finish my point. I’m invited to speak –

Rafterty: Unless you’re Mark Canter. He’s got his own set of rules.

Calacanis: He’s stoned half the time. He comes in, he reeks of pot, ‘Hey dudes, let me ask you a question, like, with these billions of dollars.’ He’s funny but he actually has some good questions. I don’t mind anybody, I’ll answer any question. I’m not afraid of anybody’s question [...] Life is short. But the weird thing is, he keeps obsessing about it. He keeps writing about me. I disengage for three months — OK, well I’m gonna fight back. I’m gonna engage ’cause I kinda find it funny when somebody engages you in this tit-for-tat stuff. Then I was like I’m CEO of a company. It’s one thing for him to act like a jerkoff. He’s individual blogger/curmudgeon/angry old guy, but I’m the CEO of a company. I gotta act a little bit more professional. Now I’m trying to let it go and not engage in it because I’m supposed to have a little bit more stature than that now. I’m supposed to act more professional.

Jason Calacanis Encroaches on Our Turf

Saturday, February 2nd, 2008

Jason Calacanis has begun a new feature on his personal blog:

Since Dave can’t stop obsessing about me I’ve decided to start a new feature here on CDC (calacanis dot com): “Great moments in Dave Winerdom!”

Today Dave Winer dismisses some of the greatest minds in the technology industry.

“people think there’s a grand plan to Apple or Google, but I bet there isn’t. They just throw stuff up on the wall, if it sticks, do version 2.0″

Dave Winer, February 1st 2008

Talk about a lack of empathy.

Sure Dave… Steve Jobs, Larry Page, Sergey Brin, and Eric Schmidt are just throwing ideas against the wall. The iphone, Google, Gmail, Google Maps, MacBook Air, OS/X, and AdWords—just throw away ideas!

How’s that revolutionary screensaver going? I hear you can pull images from the AP Newswire… really?!?! Game changer!!!

Got a great moment in Dave Winerdom? Share it below!

Though Calacanis is now our competition, we welcome the challenge from the entrepreneur who made Dave Winer his bitch.

Dave Winer vs. Jason Calacanis, Round Infinity

Wednesday, January 30th, 2008

The Dave Winer-Jason Calacanis feud continues on Twitter, the persistent online chatroom that delivers more idiocy per second (Ips) than any of its competitors.

Dave Winer: He also tells me that he’s fair game. Maybe Owen Thomas might not like to have his sex life looked into. about 10 hours ago

DaveWiner: I hate to say this but Rudy has always reminded me of Jason Calacanis. about 12 hours ago

JasonCalacanis: @davewiner: forgot to take your meds again today? about 9 hours ago in reply to davewiner

JasonCalacanis: @cgerrish: I’ve been trying to let @DaveWiner do his thing, but he’s been obsessing about me for months! move on with your life Dave!!! about 9 hours ago in reply to cgerrish

DaveWiner: @cgerrish, okay, if you say so. i’ve not seen that myself. and saying that biz about meds is powerless and totally not funny. about 9 hours ago in reply to cgerrish

JasonCalacanis: I will say, however, I take no joy in watching @DaveWiner get ripped on by Valleywag. Owen Thomas is a true piece of garbage. about 8 hours ago

JasonCalacanis: sure @DaveWiner: you can attack everyone but if someone make a joke about your asperger’s syndrome you get all crazy… oh wait, nevermind:) about 8 hours ago

NealCampbell: @JasonCalacanis – for goodness sake, ignore Dave Winer. You’re a nice person; he isn’t. about 8 hours ago

JasonCalacanis: @nealcampbell: you’re right…. you’re right… everyone says don’t feed the troll/@DaveWiner … when will I learn! :-) about 7 hours ago

Dave Winer, Looking for Love

Tuesday, January 29th, 2008

This one’s for the ladies.

Blogger Andy Baio uncovered Dave Winer’s 13-year-old personal ad from The Well:

From: Dave Winer (dwiner)
Date: 1994-08-17 17:52:00
Conference: singles
Topic: Personal Ad experiences

Well, here goes — my first message on The Well. I’ve just been lurking for the last few days, trying to figure out what’s going on. It’s pretty daunting, but maybe I’m getting the hang of it… You all seem like VERY nice people.

Anyway, I wrote a personal ad last week, and sent it via email to a bunch of friends, most of them women, for their reaction. Here’s the ad:

SWM 39, 6’2″, athletic build, Bay Area, software entrepreneur turned massage therapist, gentle hands, romantic, emotionally developed, born-again hippie. Loves gardening, road trips, walking, skiing, writing. Looking for a great gal who’s ready to create a safe space for love and lots and lots of play. Send email to: mailbox12@aol.com.

One of my friends had a pretty animated response:

“You’re going to find a nurse or a chiropractor. Why? The self-description sounds too needy, as if you’re looking for succor. Anyway, i never describe you that way to anyone i know. Your description entirely omits your shining INTELLIGENCE — you’re a genius; you assimilate new ideas like most people consume their morning cereal. You see shapes when there are only nebulae. You’re also kinetic, always soul-searching. grounded and yet ready to leap. You’re body’s pretty irrelevant, but obviously you want to be of athletic build (for what sport, exactly, would your body be considered athletic? no offense, but REALLY). As long as you’ve got some hair left and your sexual organs, your body’s functioning, or do you really want to be a combination of Yogi Berra and Albert Einstein? — Love, Sylvia”

Of course I liked Sylvia’s version of the ad better. ;->

Dave

PS: I’m a great skier. Definitely athletic.

Eye on Scoble

Thursday, January 3rd, 2008

Since “data portability” is one of Dave’s big issues and Scoble is so firmly attached to his backside 99% of the time (Should Maryam be worried?), this seems like decent fit for Ye Olde Blogge

Scoble violated a contract with a service provider and had his service interrupted. Someone call the New York Times!

I love seeing nerds get their various underwears in a bunch over stuff like this. Facebook has some rules, one of them is that you can’t scrape their pages. Scoble broke the rule (and stupidly admits to it on his blog) and now he’s throwing a tantrum because he has to face the consequences.

Listen, I want companies to give us easy access to our data as much as the next guy, but there’s a right way to do it and a wrong way. This isn’t women’s suffrage. It’s not segregation. It’s not the holocaust.

This isn’t an issue that’s so important and vital that it must be fixed immediately and through any means necessary.

This is just a bunch of adults acting like children, and using big, loaded words to defend themselves.

Here are some facts:

  1. Scoble agreed to the TOS when he signed up for facebook.
  2. He’s savvy. He knows that such contracts exist, how to find them, and what they usually contain.
  3. He knowingly and intentionally broke the rules, fully aware of what the consequences could be.
  4. He got caught, and now hopes to escape taking responsibility for his actions by making a big stink on his blog.

I don’t like the business practice of locking up user-generated content. I want it to stop. But the right way to do that is by not patronizing the companies who lock you in. Don’t use Facebook, don’t use Netflix, don’t use … well … 95% of web services out there today.

Facebook is a business that is offering you their services for zero dollars, in exchange for your agreement with a few terms and conditions. That’s the arrangement that all facebook members have agreed to, and they need to abide by it or take their ball and go home.

If Scoble stopped paying his electric bill, would all of the same people be up in arms when his lights got shut off?

It’s the same thing.

Dave Winer, Lane Hartwell, and Pants

Monday, December 10th, 2007

Dave Winer today on Twitter:

meanwhile @lanehartwell isn’t wearing pants again. that’s big news in twitterland, at least where i come from. :-)

This was in response to her comment …

i cannot seem to keep my pants on these days. wearing sweater, striped knee high socks and not much else.

A couple months ago, Winer published a picture of Hartwell’s chest under the heading “Objectified.” He also called her beautiful in linking to another photo he took on Scripting News.

Is there a context in which this isn’t completely ick? Winer’s excitement at the concept of Hartwell out of her pants is either unwelcome sexual attention — Anita Hill to the white courtesy phone please — or the first step in the blogfather’s elaborate mating ritual, to which I can only say, rent a (chat) room! Think of the children.