I also can’t find Scoble in there ever donating to the Edwards campaign. Wasn’t he all gung ho on Edwards?

I think a primary candidate owes enough loyalty to his party to respect the results of a party primary, instead of running in the general against the party nominee who beat him.

He’ll also lament the fact that the candidates (and eventually) the President do not have a cabinet post for bloggers or that all they want is donations from bloggers.

He never lets reality distort his self-vision.

This is precisely my point. The notion that a political party is something to which loyalty is owed is a highly partisan one.

As for the rest of you, you might want to examine the different types of “conservatives” — a concept vastly different from “Republican” (especially lately).

Lieberman is clearly on the conservative side of the Democratic party, McCain clearly on the liberal side of the Republican party. These days, in both parties, anyone who’s not a complete nutjob ends up being at least a “moderate”.

Regardless, Dave’s comments make it pretty clear that he’s not the “independent” he claims.

The only thing I can think of that makes him “not a Democrat” is Foreign Policy and, to be blunt, he’s a Jew. Of course he’s going to be for a more aggressive approach in the Middle East.

The attitude that Lieberman is “not a Democrat” is exactly what holds the party back and is exactly why Obama is only tied with McCain when he should be crushing him (given Bush’s approval rating). The party has become radicalized to the point where it’s just group think now. Lieberman doesn’t disagree with the party’s platform on more than a few issues but that’s enough to kick him out.

Put it this way, the people of Connecticut (a state that’s voted Democratic in the last 4 presidential elections) seem to think he’s still enough of a Democrat for them.

Only on foreign policy. Lieberman’s voting record in Congress scores something like 9% with the American Conservative Union.

I wouldn’t use the term traitor, but Lieberman ran in the Democratic primary in Connecticut, lost, and then ran as an independent. He betrayed his party when he did that.

Look at RSS. Version .91 came out at the beginning of July ’99 and Winer didn’t make any effort to update it for over a year. Then the RSS newsgroup made a proposal he didn’t like in August of 2000 and a few months later Winer releases version .92. The truth is he was never really interested in pushing RSS forward he just didn’t want someone else playing with “his” toy (as shown by the fact that he “froze” the spec the next chance he got).

Same here, the guy drives around a car that gets like 20 miles to the gallon (and brags about it on his blog), is suspicious of any Government (much less big government), and whines when the candidate he loves asks for a donation (so I can only imagine how he’s going to react when said candidate demands more tax money from him to help those less fortunate). So what Democratic principles does he really stand for?

The truth is Dave Winer believes in one Democratic Party principle and that’s “hate Republicans”

Yeah, I know, perish the thought.